It’s interesting that in their conversation together, Kathleen Cleaver said struggling makes her happy and she emphasizes interaction and socialization with people which makes her feel fulfilled but Noam Chomsky would rather be secluded in his study away from people and demonstrations while having a generally defeatist view of struggle.
Kathleen’s view reminds me of what made the Panther’s social programs so important and successful: directly and semi-immediately impacting the lives of the community: feeding, consoling, clothing them. Chomsky focuses on like arrest, tear gas, beatings etc in a demonstration that may ultimately fail (ex. the anti-WTO protests in Seattle which would happen two years after this exchange).
Obviously both are important, as we see in Ferguson right now. Besides the City Council meetings, the I-70 demonstration, and just being on the street daily, the people of Ferguson set up a bail fund, food drives, clothing drives, etc.
Nevertheless, these responses are telling about what kind of people Kathleen and Noam are and what kind of work they do.